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May 31, 2009 20:51:14 GMT -7
Post by Rogen on May 31, 2009 20:51:14 GMT -7
I'm gonna call it quits here, least for now. I see too much drama at the moment, not neccisarially involving me or grief on me. And I'm not trying to be a hard ass and bash anyone for their problems or their lack of strength or being Superman-mentally through what shit they might have. I am simply stating I have my own crap in my own life that I have to deal with, and I don't need to be worried about someone not being there, mentally or physically, the next day.
I also feel there are too many Survivors for this to even be any fun, 6-7 was fine, but we are up to 9-10 if I've counted right, and it's more of a group that can get along on their own now and it has no real immediate threat to anyone but Kass and Livings ATM. Another thing is the posting, yeah, I know I'm gonna get bashed for this, but I don't care. For my liking, it's way too slow and way too inconsistant. No, don't drop everything and post just becuase Nate said so, living you're damned lives, have fun, be free, but don't come to an RP forum and try to get a storyline/character going and just vanish from the RP all together, far as I've seen at least. For all I know, you could be in the hospital due to an accident, IDK, but if you are this is not directed at you.
Now, whether intentional or not, I've felt I've been passively attacked or rather pushed aside to an extent. Again, this could totally be me being paranoid or w/e, but it IS how I feel. If anyone wants any examples of this, feel free to ask.
I can't say any of this is factual it is only emotionally and POV based. I don't say it so I'll get a bloody fuckin 100PM's begging me not to leave, or w/e, I'm doing it because I just don't wanna up and vanish and have anyone worry, not that'd I'd expect anyone to, ya'll hardly know me. I also do this because I think it should be said, and hopefully if I choose to come back, things might be different, if not, oh well, I'm not a Prophet or a God, I can't make people do my bidding on a whim.
I think that's about it, I hope to at least get some feedback before I poof into the cyber Pergatory, but if not, it's no blood out my veins.
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Jun 5, 2009 8:29:13 GMT -7
Post by Kass on Jun 5, 2009 8:29:13 GMT -7
You gotta do what ya gotta do.
I sincerely hope that things clear up for you even though I don't know what drama is hitting you over there. It seems like forums, and not just this one, are dying in general. At least for now.
I don't know why you feel you were being attacked or pushed aside or what-have-you and I'm sure it wasn't intentional. I don't have any beef with you, so if I was part of the problem I apologize.
Take care of yourself, Nate.
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Jun 10, 2009 10:14:29 GMT -7
Post by Zoey on Jun 10, 2009 10:14:29 GMT -7
Things have been busy, and if you tried to involve yourself you wouldn't get pushed aside. If you want to play again, be my guest. The choices for the number of characters stand, because in a good roleplay it is MORE than managable. The rest of us have been nusy, with our own issues or not, and it does not need to be spoken. Deal with what you have to, come back if you wish.
BUT, do not blame the other members for being against you. If you say something to offend someone, yeah, you are going to get something said to you. We have all known eachother for a long time, long enough to be able to communicate.
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Jun 10, 2009 10:26:11 GMT -7
Post by Francis on Jun 10, 2009 10:26:11 GMT -7
Honestly? You pissed me off. You talked a lot, and not about anything personal. You talked about everyone not posting. We told you. We don't have much time. Most of us work 24/7, and we have other things to do on top of that. You talked about having 9-10 members. Quite a few of those have left because they didn't want to roleplay anymore. This group that you see before you, is our circle. No extra people. You don't realize that you are the "random" in this group of friends. We talk to each other, and try to plan a night that we all can post. When we all don't have time, you get what happened with Rhi and I. We posted like.. 8 times, and got really far ahead. I didn't want to do that. Complain all you want, we're not changing the way me and my friends do things considering you rarely posted at all anyway. When you quit whining, and come to grip with reality, you are more than welcome to come back. There really is no point in leaving.
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Jun 12, 2009 9:51:58 GMT -7
Post by Rogen on Jun 12, 2009 9:51:58 GMT -7
I do realise that I'm the "random" or the odd guy out, I thought I had stated that already. I'm also pretty sure that I explained that the posting thing is on me, I'm impatient, that is just who I am. I also dunno who all is really still here or not, I don't talk everyday with everyone, I'm not on Xbox all the time, I don't have phone numbers, etc.. etc... And no one ever said you and Rhi had to post a billion times and pass everyone, I just like faster posting of EVERYONE not just two people. If you guys have something planned, it can be planned in all of about ten minutes. The RP fills in the small details, otherwise you already know what's coming every second of the way, you know who is gonna lose it, and then, least for me, it becomes a story you've already read.
I have tried involving myself, maybe not in the right ways or how you guys involve yourselves, but all of the two Party's I was invited to on XBL everyone talked for 10mins about nothing and then exited the party, that, or I left when everything got quiet. I'm not blaming anyone for being "against me" I'm not blaming them for anything, they are people, you are people, we arn't all the same average joe that acts like the next.
My post here wasn't meant to change anyone, it was a hope to give insight either into me, or yourself by my POV's. Though, I did write that I believe, the change thing, and for that I'm sorry I should have worded it differently.
I also don't think one should get pushed aside just because they don't talk to ya'll everyday, or plan everything the same way, or involve themselves the same way. If you hardly know the person then you take time to try to get to know them, you can't place all the blame on them for getting to know YOU. You DO have your issues RL wise, fine, if you're gonna be busy for say, a week, or something, just say so, no details needed. If it turns out everyone is gonna be busy, fantastic, but I can't always talk with you guys every step of the way like some of you can and probably do. Most likely, Zoey can name serval different things that Francis does on a normal basis or maybe that might hold him up at work, or at least tell if he's being a straight up ass or has had a bad day, I can't do that with anyone but maybe Blinding becuase he's rather expressive, and I don't mean that negatively.
I rarely post because no one tells ME that you guys plan when you wanna post, know one explains that you wanna post every two weeks on one day, that I have to come to YOU every single time I want to know something, it can't work that way, sometimes there are variables in an equation that just can't be solved without that extra number. If I complain about posts, or if anyone does, in regards to the lack there of, then just ignore me/him/her, it's rather easy, especially on an IM box, if something like that gets you ticked off then you should be taking some sort of relaxent, that or de-stress yourself in some way, it's pointless to get angry at someone for a preference, in this case, of speed.
Ya'll might be right though, maybe I should've been contact you more on XBL, maybe asked for numbers, maybe asked out of the blue what ya'll prefer to do when it comes to RP isntead of just jumping right in like a rabbit in a pack a wolves. But if I happen to have something planned and it gets shoved aside like a damned wet rag then it's no fun, it's just about ya'll doing what you want, if I choose not to tell anyone, that doesn't mean you can't play on it and make things exciting. Instead though my plot was destroyed in one simple post. Ya'll act like I should ask all the time, and be the one getting to know everyone else, maybe you guys should ask me a question or a preference, or a "mind if I do this?" or "What's your favorite movie/sport".
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And yes Zoey, in a normal RP, 10 is a perfect number of people. But this is a bit different, it's a survival RP, and about 80-90% of everyone is the "good guy" to say the least. In any other RP, the characters can be good or bad an still move forward a plot, in this RP it's kinda more-or-less revolving around the Survivors and not so much the zombies/infected, so everyone is a survivor, and with 10people or so playing as humans, there's less "surviving" more about "running-n-gunning", it's taking things outta the original situation and changing them into something totally different.
On another note, I'm leaving for two weeks, vacation. Probabley won't have access here, if I do, I'll respond if I'm not banned or account deleted.
Also, Kass; you weren't a problem, no one was one specific thing I put above, kind of a mix of things from everyone. Cept Paul and RL Joey, being as they were rarely around nothing really got started, positive or otherwise.
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Jun 13, 2009 15:04:04 GMT -7
Post by Erik on Jun 13, 2009 15:04:04 GMT -7
"I rarely post because no one tells ME that you guys plan when you wanna post, know one explains that you wanna post every two weeks on one day, that I have to come to YOU every single time I want to know something, it can't work that way."
You never involved yourself. You never came to anybody to figure out what was going on with the RP, what was being planned, etc. Your impatience quite frankly annoys me and the fact that you're throwing this bitch fit over something on the INTERNET makes you seem even more annoying. Why don't you realize that we do this for fun, and that for the most of us, fun takes a back seat when we become busy, weather that's because of work or because of issues popping up or something else, and that posting isn't our highest priority.
So you'll have to excuse us for having fucking lives, and maybe, just maybe we won't post long enough so that you can take your bitching elsewhere, because quite frankly, none of us need to deal with it.
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Jun 13, 2009 21:06:06 GMT -7
Post by Rogen on Jun 13, 2009 21:06:06 GMT -7
So "I" have to make the effort and you don't? I have to get involved YOU can't involve me? It seems like I have to do alot of doing with little to no help in this. My impatients can annoy you all you allow it to, it's who I am, I don't tell you that your emotional break down's make me feel like crap, or that I'm helpless in trying to help you, I don't make you feel like worse shit intentionally, if I do, I'm sorry, but I'm not trying to make you change into a person who is suddenly all chipper just because I don't like the way you are. If you don't like my lack of patients, deal with it, it's who I am, I can work on it, yes, but it's never really gonna go away.
This wasn't a bitch fit, this was simply stating how I thought I was wronged and what I thought of it, not; "Oh you fucking whores, go fuck yourselves, you all suck!" this was me trying to be mature and telling you how I felt about the situation. I never said anyone HAD to reply, if no one had, I would've been fine with it, we all coulda gone on with our lives with an expieriance that we might or might not have enjoyed. Right now, you three are looking rather vendictive, like I'm wrong here and you need to make ME right. Kass too a mature outlook on this, she expressed herself wholey and without taking sides, in a neutral stance, but sitll got her point across. All you guys seem to want to do is point the finger as me and say everything I did wrong, I've yet to see anyone but Kass and myself show some self-degredation in their statements, so, you guys think you are all in the right in this, at least from what you said. Yet you only pick out specific things you KNOW I've either done wrong or at least not to your liking and nothing about how Francis totally derailed my attempt to start a personal RP with Rogen, or how my problem was unidentified regarding the emotional break downs about every week, or how I felt targeted or pushed aside, ya'll blame me for that, not maybe that you were just used to playing with a certain cliche and hadn't felt me out yet, which is a totally acceptable answer, I can't blame anyone for that. No, ya'll wanna point the blame on someone else so you can feel better about your own well being, I don't like seeing it that way anymore than anyone else here, but it's the only way any of your statements can be rationalized.
No one told me ya'll planned when to get on, no one told me when ya'll were on XBL or anything else to talk, no one told me even when you wanted to talka bout planning anything, I was never invited to talk about RP, I thought that would be discussed in the board that spicifically states that, that is where RP's are discussed and furthered, since THAT would be the best place to put when we could all RP on such-n-such date. And Erik, I do this for FUN, it's a hobby, it's what I like to do, but if I was working two jobs, and had a busy fuckin week and thought I should take a break to keep my mind where it needed to be, I would tell everyone on the forum, not just the people I talked to everyday that were involved, because honestly, if ya'll have time to post here and bitch at me, then you should have time to post, or at least tell anyone not in your lil clique that you're gonna be busy a while. And Erik don't give me a lecture about having a fucking life, I just make time for all the things I love doing, last I checked you had next to nothing better to say in the chat box but how miserable you felt, I know this is a low blow, but don't be a hypocrit, succeed in what you preach. So take your whining and complaining somewhere private to where the people you know can deal with it, CAN deal with it, personally I can't, I've tried too much to fix people in and around my life, as well as heard as many sob stories as a damned traveler of the world, I don't need another to add to that pile.
And sorry for adding you in this Kass, I didn't want to, but I think you deserve that much respect. Even though you'll probably be pissed that I attacked Erik this way.
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Jun 14, 2009 6:59:04 GMT -7
Post by Erik on Jun 14, 2009 6:59:04 GMT -7
Did you really, really just compare your impatience to the shit I'm dealing with?
No. Get the fuck out of here.
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Jun 14, 2009 9:51:49 GMT -7
Post by Rogen on Jun 14, 2009 9:51:49 GMT -7
Possibly, but I was mainly comparing your assumption that I have no life when you complain about how shitty your's can be, and how when I complain, everyone freakin jumps on me like a rampaging bull, but when you do they coddle to you like a 2year old who cut his finger and I'm expected to do the same, because I tried giving MY advice about dealing with shit like that and I get cussed at like I'm some asshole telling you your just a pussy who can't take a hit at school, instead of something like "Sorry that's not how I/He rolls." Don't tell me I don't have a life, or even imply it if you can't even get your shit straight. And if there is nothing you can do about some of it, you just ignore it until something comes along that allows you to deal with it, otherwise you're killing yourself every single day.
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Jun 14, 2009 13:04:37 GMT -7
Post by Erik on Jun 14, 2009 13:04:37 GMT -7
You bitch and moan about us not posting in the RP. I'm dealing with two of my friends being suicidal, another friend of mine passing way, my childhood friend almost dying in a tragic car crash, my step-father becoming abusive again, this asshole purposely trying to kick me while I'm down by insulting one of my closer friends as she's mourning the death of yet another person as well as getting over her pregnancy scare, and that's just the top of things I'm having to fucking put up with right now. They are not at all fucking comparable, don't you ever ever say a fucking word to or about me and my problems again, you understand?
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Jun 15, 2009 3:54:46 GMT -7
Post by Francis on Jun 15, 2009 3:54:46 GMT -7
Possibly, but I was mainly comparing your assumption that I have no life when you complain about how shitty your's can be, and how when I complain, everyone freakin jumps on me like a rampaging bull, but when you do they coddle to you like a 2year old who cut his finger and I'm expected to do the same, because I tried giving MY advice about dealing with shit like that and I get cussed at like I'm some asshole telling you your just a pussy who can't take a hit at school, instead of something like "Sorry that's not how I/He rolls." Don't tell me I don't have a life, or even imply it if you can't even get your shit straight. And if there is nothing you can do about some of it, you just ignore it until something comes along that allows you to deal with it, otherwise you're killing yourself every single day. You, quit complaining about a website over the internet. If you're going to leave, just leave. You're doing nothing by coming back to complain some more. Moral of the story, we're fine doing things our way, you don't want a part of it? Fine. Be gone. Now shut up, and get the hell out of my way. You bitch and moan about us not posting in the RP. I'm dealing with two of my friends being suicidal, another friend of mine passing way, my childhood friend almost dying in a tragic car crash, my step-father becoming abusive again, this asshole purposely trying to kick me while I'm down by insulting one of my closer friends as she's mourning the death of yet another person as well as getting over her pregnancy scare, and that's just the top of things I'm having to fucking put up with right now. They are not at all fucking comparable, don't you ever ever say a fucking word to or about me and my problems again, you understand? Calm down. I'm taking care of it.
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Jun 15, 2009 20:29:10 GMT -7
Post by Kass on Jun 15, 2009 20:29:10 GMT -7
Holy. Shit.
*looks around*
A damn throw-down.
No problem, Nate. I don't mind you bringing me into this. And to be honest, I consider all of you friends...until you give me a reason not to. I've been dealing with shit as well, but I still don't have any beef with you.
I'm not speaking for the others because it's pretty clear how they feel. But yeah, no harm no foul by me dude. Sorry for not asking you that much about yourself.
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